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hey guys how's it going welcome back to

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the channel uh this one is a little bit

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different this was a pre-recorded

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interview and it's quite heavily edited

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i did it recently with steph um where

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she came on to talk about her experience

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back in the 80s as a young girl along

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with her mother and her sister and we've

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got testimony from them both as well so

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i hope you enjoy the video and thanks

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for watching

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so

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pretty much um

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back in about 1985

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um i was a little girl and i was old

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enough to know the difference between

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what um a helicopter an airplane was

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even a stealth bomber my family has been

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in the

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aerospace business since about 1945.

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that's when we had to establish our

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business

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so we had military contracts i mean i

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was surrounded by images of airplanes

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and

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i mean little kind of like 3d images of

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these crafts so i was very familiar at a

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young age and

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that's why when what happened to us

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happened

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i

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but um you know there were four of us

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that this did happen to

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so yeah thank you for allowing me to

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share this and hopefully it'll bring

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forth more people who may have been

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afraid to talk about it you know it's

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it's something that's happening and uh

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you know as more information continues

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to unfold from you know the military

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um and being played on television is

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giving a little bit more validity to the

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the subject and it's not so

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so much of a novelty any longer and

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that's what really brought me here too

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you know i thought wow there's other

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people that really get this they

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understand what's happening

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it's just it's real it's like

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it's a trip so

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yeah

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so

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pretty much we were at our grandparents

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home they live at the bottom of um idaho

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california it was at the time it was a

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little city called valvista

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they were backed up to a ravine so we

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had a mountainside right behind us

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just beautiful landscape and uh you know

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we had orange trees and lemon trees and

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all of these just just it was just like

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our fun little adventure place to go to

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and we had dinner that evening and as we

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were leaving

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we we have a huge gate that we had to

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close so this came to mind recently

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where i'm thinking we actually had to

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take our time to walk over to the gate

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go ahead and close it say our waves and

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our goodbyes to our grandma

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and

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buckled up into this you know big boat

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of a cadillac at the time i mean super

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cozy car by all means

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uh my sister and i were sitting in the

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back of the car my mom driving of course

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and my brother and the passenger

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um we had turned right onto the highway

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us going through that motion of closing

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the gate and doing our goodbyes

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really came into the back of my mind

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where i'm going as soon as we left

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this object did appear behind us

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now as a kid i initially was thinking

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it's a helicopter because that's what i

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had grown up seeing

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now and i was very young so i that's

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what i had just connected

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my mom driving as she describes it

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this vantage point of hers was in her

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rearview mirror on the driver's side so

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she saw an image of the bottom of this

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craft and i think that's where she

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established this depth to it she

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describes it almost as like a like a

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bottom of a boat

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and button with no lines so just very

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smooth

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texture

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and

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somewhat of a craft

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so

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somewhat remember that but that wasn't

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the main

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part that i recall

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it's like as things start to you know we

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start to talk about this more and i'm

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trying to dig up information when the

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time is right it does bring up a little

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bit of a memory and i

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may go into regression eventually one

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day when i'm ready

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so

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but um we had turned right onto the

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highway

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my mom recognized that something was in

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the air behind us and

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she turned onto a street that would

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parallel the ravine

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and you may show images as i'm

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describing this so we're literally along

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a riverbed

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from what i saw in the back seat

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was

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out okay she's like there's something in

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the air behind us it's very close it was

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a just over i would say a hundred yards

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um

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maybe 200 yards away so very close in

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proximity you know um in comparison to

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seeing it say way far in the distance

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and just say an orb in the sky this was

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hovering

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so while we're along this ravine here

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my mom starts freaking out

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there's something behind us

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what is it stephanie look at it

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my sister

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is crouched next to me afraid

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mind you she's two years older which

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makes sense that she would be afraid

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because she could recognize danger i

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think i

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i was

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just a curious kid in general

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and being young i don't think i could

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really connect the danger aspect of what

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this was so we must have taken off our

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seat belts

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turned around

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in the back of the car and i do recall

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both of our arms were almost up on the

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back seat peering out

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now as my mom is frantic

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i mean

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she probably was flailing her arms and

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i mean i was trying to listen to what

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she was directing me to do as a kid you

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listen to your mom

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she said stephanie look at it

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and i did look at it it was a very short

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instance of what i had

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you know tried to soak up you know

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it was not a helicopter there were no

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blades it was hovering

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there to me i felt like i heard a bit of

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a sound

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whereas my sister and my mother said no

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sound

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i heard something that i would describe

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as a

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whirring sound

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now if that rings

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true to anybody else that may have

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witnessed something such as that

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it might make sense somewhere but i do

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for some reason recall that

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don't know what it was

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i i saw no blades

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all i saw was

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like the bottom almost of like a ship

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what it felt like as a like the bottom

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if you would be at the vantage point of

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the bottom of a ship

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and uh smooth and like a dark gunmetal

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gray

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like dark it was dark

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before the object

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flashed away and zipped wherever it

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zipped to

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i do

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feel that i recall a flash

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that is something new that

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i realized

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and i'm going i think that this actually

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there was a flash and it was boom and it

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was gone

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i'm i feel like i'm kind of chopping

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this up right now also because

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it's like it's a lot you know you're

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thinking about all these things that

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happen

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there's a point where my mom had stopped

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the car and i do i sent you a little

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video blip of her

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slamming on the brakes of the car

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because i felt like i should take

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advantage of her talking about it and i

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said okay let's videotape this how did

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it feel how hard did you slam on the

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brakes

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and that's when she slammed on the

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when we stopped

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the object

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also at the same exact instance

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stopped

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there was no flow of it

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pushing and stopping such as in

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helicopter

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in kauai i know the feeling of that

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maneuvering

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there's no way you can actually abruptly

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stop a helicopter no way

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so that is just

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something that

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you know it knocks on the back of your

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brain going well why did this this

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happen why did this happen

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so when we stopped it stopped

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i recall an instance where we backed up

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and it backed up as

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very similar to the um technology of a

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tesla car i'm sure you've driven in one

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before see

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penalty people have seen them i've test

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driven it a couple of times and

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if they have that technology where they

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recognize

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like their cognitive behavior is

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if i see something i move with it

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yeah

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that was just a trip i mean i i

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i hope this information

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lands in the proper hands to where we

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can actually establish

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what's going on here so yeah that that

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happened and that was in the 80s

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being that we came from a military or

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aerospace background we had military

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contracts with mcdonald douglas boeing

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northrup

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hughes you name it

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um we

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knew who to call

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so as soon as she got home she was going

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to call the faa

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and then

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she was directed to call march air force

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base

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say 30 40 miles from where we were

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located so that would be the place to

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call there's also 29 palms so that's who

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we were directed to call

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now if someone say such as say sean from

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witness citizen can contact them and get

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these documents i know he's really great

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at digging up information

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i mean we would love to see that that

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log there's got to be a phone log of

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her phone call

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you know is there an audio recording

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probably not but there could be that

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still on files so hey sean if you're

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listening if you see this

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march air force base okay

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so next up we got steph's mom on the

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phone and she gave us her testimony

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apologies if the sound's not quite right

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i'm not the best editor so i probably

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couldn't get the levels correct but uh

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this is steph's mom giving her testimony

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i don't know vinnie i have my mom on the

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phone right now and she is ready to talk

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about it so why don't

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she's she's ready like let's let's chime

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in so mom are you you want to go ahead

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and talk to the ufo community about what

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happened to us back in what 1985-ish

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uh of course i'd love to okay the the

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stand is yours go for it

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well hello vinnie hi stephanie and thank

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you for this nice introduction

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and

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every time i think about what happened

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to us

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my three little children and i wasn't

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much older than that i was like

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i don't know 30 or something like that

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but

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we did see a ufo this is

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for real

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no joke

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i won't get into all the little details

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right now but uh we were out in hammock

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california

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off of highway 74

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actually it was called dalvista at that

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time

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and

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we were

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having a good time at

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we were going to take off it was like

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really dark

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i remember that i'm like recounting all

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this every time i do it it's like you

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know

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it's unbelievable

333
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but it was true

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so

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we had to drive a little bit on this

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like

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land of my parents to get to the highway

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maybe like a short block and lock the

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gate

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all my kids were in the car i think it

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was warm summer

342
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they might have been wearing a

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babysitters

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my two daughters were in the rear of our

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79

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bronze cadillac that was given to

347
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me by my dad but um

348
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as soon as we were going to take off on

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highway 74

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west

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i i'm i'm always looking

352
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i'm like

353
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no cars but immediately i saw this

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triangle dark like

355
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black

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triangle shapes

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and it had

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white

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soft lights

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on each of the triangle

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two in the back one in the front

362
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uh right away i thought what the heck am

363
00:14:37,829 --> 00:14:36,320
i this is not from here

364
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um

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i lived most of my life in all of my

366
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life

367
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as a kid

368
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in

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aircraft parts so it was just you know i

370
00:14:54,790 --> 00:14:52,320
knew this was not

371
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happening so

372
00:14:58,230 --> 00:14:55,839
i uh

373
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it was really dark there was no cars out

374
00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:00,800
and i'm like this thing is following us

375
00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:03,360
it was kind of low

376
00:15:08,790 --> 00:15:05,760
and i remember

377
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turning on a street to try to avoid

378
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this thing following us in a straight on

379
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a street highway 74

380
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and i turned on a street called grant

381
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towards the riverbed and that would be

382
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north east

383
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to take a side

384
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road and by that time i'm like okay this

385
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thing turned just following us

386
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and it was just like hovering it made no

387
00:15:36,790 --> 00:15:34,399
noise i heard no noise at all

388
00:15:38,389 --> 00:15:36,800
and i thought oh what am i gonna do i've

389
00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:38,399
got like

390
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two three miles to drive home

391
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and uh

392
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so i abruptly stopped on the side dirt

393
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road there's nothing out there in

394
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hammock

395
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it was actually called galveston at that

396
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time

397
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and i told my girls

398
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and i was kind of like yelling i said

399
00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:05,269
it wouldn't go away i turned my

400
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headlights off i didn't turn the engine

401
00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:10,240
off oh gee

402
00:16:15,110 --> 00:16:12,720
i've cut it i gotta get my three kids

403
00:16:17,269 --> 00:16:15,120
home boy this is surreal and it was like

404
00:16:18,949 --> 00:16:17,279
it happened so quickly

405
00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:18,959
so

406
00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:23,509
are you still there yeah

407
00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:26,079
okay i wasn't sure if my hair hung up

408
00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:26,880
again

409
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:29,199
my son was sitting in the front seat and

410
00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:30,240
he

411
00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:33,759
and i was like

412
00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:35,360
no don't

413
00:16:38,629 --> 00:16:37,519
know i yelled at him

414
00:16:41,749 --> 00:16:38,639
and

415
00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:41,759
i asked stephanie to to look back

416
00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:43,680
and see what this was i asked you know

417
00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:45,600
to look back but she

418
00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:47,759
that was the older sister

419
00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:49,920
she didn't seem to want to uh but

420
00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:52,399
stephanie did and i thought figured okay

421
00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:54,399
this seconds count

422
00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:56,800
i just have to

423
00:17:00,389 --> 00:16:59,120
turn my headlights back on and i was

424
00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:00,399
like speeding

425
00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:02,880
home on this little side street

426
00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:05,520
i think i don't know

427
00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:07,520
maybe

428
00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:11,760
fast i mean you should only be like

429
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:15,039
going maybe you have 30 35

430
00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:16,559
and

431
00:17:23,189 --> 00:17:20,480
as i decided just to speed off

432
00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:23,199
this object just poof it just

433
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:25,360
it went over like the river bedroom it

434
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:27,520
says you could not even

435
00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:29,440
have a

436
00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:30,960
split second to think about what

437
00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:33,760
happened if it just like went away

438
00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:36,320
so i'm just like going home

439
00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:37,440
and

440
00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:39,760
i've probably got home

441
00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:42,000
i don't know a few minutes pulled the

442
00:17:44,830 --> 00:17:43,200
driveway and

443
00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:44,840
pulled my car

444
00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:48,960
in and got the kids into the house

445
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:50,320
and i

446
00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:52,480
i thought well i got to call somebody

447
00:18:03,510 --> 00:17:53,440
this

448
00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:03,520
and uh

449
00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:05,760
so i thought my first thing was both

450
00:18:09,430 --> 00:18:07,520
thinking of the police and then march

451
00:18:10,789 --> 00:18:09,440
air force base

452
00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:10,799
and since

453
00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:13,120
march air force base was close

454
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:15,840
and we've i thought well maybe it was

455
00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:17,440
something for marsh air force base i

456
00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,160
didn't know so i made a phone call

457
00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:22,160
to march air force base and i did speak

458
00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:24,080
with somebody

459
00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:26,160
i

460
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:27,120
and

461
00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:29,760
i wrote it down on a piece of paper i

462
00:18:34,310 --> 00:18:31,679
put it in a phone book of mine i don't

463
00:18:36,470 --> 00:18:34,320
know where this paper is what happened

464
00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:36,480
but uh

465
00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:38,480
they never called me back marsha air

466
00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:41,840
force base never called me back

467
00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:44,000
don't know what ever happened it was

468
00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:46,160
just

469
00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:47,919
but you know

470
00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:54,830
is now happening is other people are

471
00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:58,320
seeing exactly what i saw

472
00:19:01,990 --> 00:18:59,840
so it's like

473
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:02,000
you know

474
00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:04,400
that's about it and i'm like uh i know

475
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:07,200
stephanie i'm a daughter

476
00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:10,559
she witnessed me

477
00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:12,400
making these phone calls so frantically

478
00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:14,320
and i'm kind of like frantic now just

479
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:16,240
recounting it it's like

480
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:18,000
it really happened

481
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:21,600
and and my son who's passed away

482
00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:24,720
we all had seen this

483
00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:28,400
i've never seen it again that was it

484
00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:30,480
so that that's my story i'm sure i can

485
00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:33,200
think of some more details but uh

486
00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:34,960
being in the

487
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:37,440
aerospace business

488
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:39,760
it was just you know something

489
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:42,400
i thought well

490
00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:43,760
maybe it was something i just didn't

491
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:45,280
know about

492
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,710
no it's not from it's not from earth i

493
00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:52,480
am not that i know

494
00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:55,440
so that's my story thank you

495
00:20:01,029 --> 00:19:58,640
that's about it for now yeah and well i

496
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:01,039
do want to have you expound on one uh

497
00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:04,480
detail also and i also just want to say

498
00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:06,960
i'm not really fond of the term story

499
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:08,720
because it's it's an incident that

500
00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:10,559
occurred but i guess

501
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:13,200
exactly we understand what you're trying

502
00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:16,240
to describe so it is an incident that

503
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:17,600
had occurred

504
00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:20,799
i just want to make that clear and

505
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:23,679
we get it mom we get it so

506
00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:26,320
now will you describe to

507
00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:27,440
us

508
00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:31,039
how the object actually mimicked our

509
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:33,840
movement because i don't believe you had

510
00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:35,679
oh yeah i forgot about that i forgot

511
00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:37,440
about that yes thank you for reminding

512
00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:38,799
me

513
00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:40,960
when i

514
00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:46,310
and

515
00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:47,360
stopped

516
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:50,159
i did move forward and back and it it

517
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:53,520
did the same thing i was like

518
00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:54,799
okay

519
00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:56,960
there's something

520
00:21:02,070 --> 00:20:58,400
that

521
00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:02,080
is keeping an eye on us but also

522
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:08,070
aerospace working with my brothers and

523
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:10,240
just the family i mean it was always on

524
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:11,440
our mind we

525
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:13,280
like

526
00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:16,400
the stars what's going on out there

527
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,640
but never in my life would i think that

528
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:22,559
i would see something like that

529
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:27,909
so yes it did it

530
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:28,640
i

531
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:42,640
go away

532
00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:52,710
are you there yet yeah we're still with

533
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:55,200
you so and basically what you're trying

534
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:57,679
to tell us is about how frightened you

535
00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:59,520
were when this was happening you were

536
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:01,520
trying to protect your kids

537
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:03,760
which that's what a motherly instinct

538
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:04,640
would

539
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:11,360
do i scare this thing and i do recall

540
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:13,440
you turning the headlights off

541
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,200
and i don't recall if you turn the car

542
00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:17,280
off entirely but you were trying to

543
00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:20,240
almost hide from it

544
00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:22,559
no i did not turn the engine off because

545
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:24,960
okay i thought well maybe my engine

546
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:26,880
might not start back up you know so i

547
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,400
didn't want to be doing something like

548
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:30,159
that so i'm sure

549
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:32,960
my my red taillights would have

550
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:35,600
shown yeah yeah yeah

551
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:36,320
so

552
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:42,400
house you had initially seen this object

553
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:43,600
in your

554
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:46,000
driver's side mirror on the left side

555
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:47,440
behind us

556
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,360
that's right i saw it right away because

557
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:51,840
i'm i'm so

558
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:54,799
looking on the highway right left it's a

559
00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:56,960
dark pitch black i'm telling you there

560
00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:59,280
was no cars out

561
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:01,679
i saw it immediately i would say

562
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:05,039
my immediately probably was

563
00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:05,840
maybe

564
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:08,720
less than five seconds because yeah

565
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,120
grandpa and grandma lived it was

566
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:13,440
and grandpa had passed away then but

567
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:16,640
yeah we're right by the hills so cars

568
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:18,080
are like coming down through san

569
00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:19,440
bernardino

570
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:21,840
national forest fast and you know you

571
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,360
can't just pull out

572
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:25,600
i was very very cautious and i thought

573
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:27,919
well okay i can still remember when i

574
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:30,480
blew up and i was like look up i looked

575
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:32,320
in my rear view mirror and i'm not i'm

576
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,310
and uh

577
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:40,230
i didn't have to take a double tape i

578
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:42,080
knew this

579
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,029
i think it was like following us right

580
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,200
away i was like

581
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:51,360
it just was kind of i'm

582
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:53,360
fighting from it but i mean i'm glad

583
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,559
it's over

584
00:24:03,350 --> 00:23:56,960
but i knew

585
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:05,029
there wasn't any cars out on this

586
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:07,200
highway yeah there was nobody yeah i

587
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:09,760
mean no no that's like in the mid 80s

588
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,480
and i'm like there's nobody that's

589
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:14,080
doing that we were

590
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:16,240
we were always every weekend we were

591
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:17,440
going over

592
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:19,600
swimming having you know barbecue or

593
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:20,799
whatever and

594
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:30,789
we did that night

595
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,830
we

596
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:35,430
but

597
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:38,960
it was so it was a straight path for me

598
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:41,760
to get to or for us to get back home but

599
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:42,880
i thought

600
00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:45,039
for me to speed

601
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:48,400
my car and go fast west

602
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:50,159
was pointless because that's just like a

603
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:52,080
v-line for whatever's following me and i

604
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:54,159
figured okay it doesn't know these side

605
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:56,080
streets probably so

606
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:59,120
i knew i knew to take a quick

607
00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:00,880
side street i didn't really want to

608
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:03,200
because it's not exactly

609
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,240
it was

610
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:06,000
kind of out in the bootcamps

611
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:07,600
i didn't want to take my three kids you

612
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:12,310
mom mom

613
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,000
exactly and you did the right thing you

614
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:16,320
did what most parents would do you would

615
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,520
try to be line and get the

616
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:21,679
f out or whatever you want to say that's

617
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:23,840
probably crossed your mind get me out of

618
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:26,000
this location i am being followed by

619
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:28,080
something and we don't know what it was

620
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:29,440
so

621
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:30,960
i wasn't

622
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:34,000
i don't know if i was afraid i was more

623
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:35,919
frightened that i had my three children

624
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:36,880
in the car

625
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:41,269
my kids

626
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:44,159
yeah so do

627
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:46,240
yes yes exactly

628
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:49,600
now you did mention in another um

629
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:52,159
conversation that we had about

630
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,679
not seeing

631
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:55,679
well let me ask you the question i don't

632
00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:58,400
want to put anything in your mouth

633
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:01,360
do you recall any propulsion system any

634
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:04,559
blades anything like such as that

635
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:07,039
no there wasn't any the only thing that

636
00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:09,039
it looked like was there was a little

637
00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:10,799
depth to it

638
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:12,159
uh

639
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:13,840
it was

640
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:19,200
see any other

641
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,559
it looked like

642
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:22,240
you know what it's hard to know exactly

643
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:23,520
but it wasn't

644
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:26,480
it wasn't really big and it wasn't small

645
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:29,120
i'm thinking maybe uh

646
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:36,710
oh goodness it's hard to tell it was

647
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,430
like size of a diesel truck a diesel

648
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:53,120
container

649
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:58,159
it was a triangle shape okay that's a

650
00:27:02,149 --> 00:27:00,080
good perspective for people to kind of

651
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:02,159
place into their brains so

652
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:03,360
um now

653
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:04,960
another question

654
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:12,310
no can you can you hear me

655
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:13,990
and it was like mostly black it could

656
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:15,919
have been like a little

657
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:19,200
it could have been like light black

658
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:20,720
i

659
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:39,760
my account of

660
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:41,200
what i'm sure

661
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:44,240
was a ufo or

662
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,200
definitely an unidentified

663
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:49,200
flying object

664
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:51,200
um

665
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:54,240
approximately 1985

666
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:55,679
i

667
00:28:04,789 --> 00:27:59,520
and

668
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:04,799
back seat

669
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,840
of my mom's cadillac

670
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,840
which was

671
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:11,200
copper color

672
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,159
um

673
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:13,840
i'll never forget it

674
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:17,600
very long

675
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:20,559
four-door cadillac

676
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:23,279
i don't remember the model but

677
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:25,520
you know definitely kind of

678
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,269
i guess maybe older in the sense that an

679
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:33,520
older person would drive it um due to

680
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,279
the style but

681
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:37,120
by no means was it like

682
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:38,320
a

683
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,240
so

684
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:44,640
it was one evening

685
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:45,919
that

686
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:46,960
um

687
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:49,039
me and my siblings and my mom we were

688
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:52,159
leaving our grandparents house in

689
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:54,240
hemet california

690
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:58,799
and our grandparents house was

691
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,240
on a riverbed

692
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:02,480
so literally

693
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:07,750
mountainside

694
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:14,549
there's like it goes down like into the

695
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,520
riverbed there was like

696
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:20,000
i don't know well their house was on

697
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:21,520
i guess

698
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:24,559
the edge of it right the edge of

699
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:27,760
uh the mountainscape there

700
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:28,640
and

701
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:29,760
um

702
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:31,679
we used to go to our grandparents house

703
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:32,559
for

704
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:37,120
dinner quite often or just hanging out

705
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:37,840
and

706
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,559
um this one particular evening

707
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:42,799
it was just my mom

708
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:45,520
my brother brian my sister stephanie and

709
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:46,960
myself

710
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:49,600
and we left our grandparents house it

711
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:52,559
was pitch black outside

712
00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:55,600
so it you know it was definitely

713
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:56,960
nighttime

714
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:59,039
and um

715
00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,480
there's a little

716
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,840
back road

717
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:03,600
that would

718
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:05,440
go along

719
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:07,600
the riverbed

720
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:11,760
so it wasn't like a main road it was

721
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:12,640
kind of

722
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:14,320
what we could we would call it a back

723
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:15,520
road right

724
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:16,880
so

725
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,320
um

726
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,559
when we were

727
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:23,360
approaching kind of a mobile home park

728
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:24,880
area

729
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:28,480
my mom said that she saw a bright light

730
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:31,520
in the back of her roover mirror

731
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:32,399
and

732
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:35,039
she stopped she's like what is that

733
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,960
and my sister stephanie and i we were

734
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:38,720
sitting in the back seat

735
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:41,440
and like little girls do we take our you

736
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,679
know seat belt off and then turn around

737
00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:45,760
really quick and look out the back

738
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:46,720
window

739
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,159
and there was this round object

740
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:51,919
with a bright light

741
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:55,520
and no sound whatsoever

742
00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:57,279
just hovering

743
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:59,600
over the riverbed

744
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:01,120
and

745
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:03,440
i don't know if my brother brian turned

746
00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:05,919
around because he was sitting in the

747
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:08,480
front and had his seatbelt on so i don't

748
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:10,000
know if he

749
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:11,760
had the chance

750
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:14,320
to turn around easily

751
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:17,440
like how my sister and i did

752
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:18,880
and

753
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:24,230
my mom had stopped the car

754
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:28,000
and it was just hovering literally above

755
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:29,360
the riverbed

756
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,799
and we were staring

757
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:32,399
at it

758
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,000
wondering

759
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:39,750
and my mom pulled forward a little bit

760
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:41,679
and then

761
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:44,880
it moved forward a little bit

762
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:47,200
and then just you know we stopped and

763
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:49,519
then it stopped and it just kept kept

764
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:51,760
hovering and there was no sound

765
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:53,919
completely quiet

766
00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:55,919
and then my mom moved forward again and

767
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,240
then it moved forward

768
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,720
so it was kind of like mimicking

769
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:02,799
our movement

770
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:09,669
bright light but it didn't light up the

771
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:11,039
entire

772
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:14,320
riverbed it was just a

773
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:15,840
solid

774
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:17,440
stationary

775
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:19,120
white light

776
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:21,360
and there was no sound

777
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:23,440
i don't remember hearing

778
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:25,840
or seeing any kind of

779
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:29,039
blades or anything like that but

780
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,480
um

781
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:32,720
you know like helicopter blades

782
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,679
but

783
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:35,760
when we moved forward it moved forward

784
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:37,360
when it stopped

785
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,159
or when we stopped it stopped

786
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,399
and i'll never forget this encounter

787
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:44,399
i can still

788
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:46,799
vividly see it in my memory

789
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,600
and i know for a fact

790
00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:51,360
i saw it

791
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:54,840
my sister saw it my mom saw it

792
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,399
and

793
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:58,880
by the third time my mom pulled forward

794
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:01,039
and we didn't know what it was

795
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:03,039
she was like we're getting out of here

796
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:05,360
and we left

797
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:06,159
but

798
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:08,320
i'll never forget that evening i'll

799
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:11,120
never forget that moment i can still see

800
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:13,039
it in my mind

801
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:14,240
um

802
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,399
and i know my sister saw it too and she

803
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:18,000
remembers it

804
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,120
um

805
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:22,000
1985 sounds about right and that would

806
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,720
have

807
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:24,559
made me eight years old

808
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:26,240
and i know

809
00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:28,159
i was about that age and then

810
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,039
stephanie's just a tad younger than me

811
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:33,360
um so she would definitely remember it

812
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:34,480
as well

813
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:35,440
um

814
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,399
but yeah it basically whatever it was it

815
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,559
mimicked our movement

816
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:42,240
and it didn't

817
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:45,039
it didn't shy away from us at all

818
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:46,960
um

819
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,640
it just was like hovering there it was

820
00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:50,080
really weird

821
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:53,840
um so yeah just just hovering there

822
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:56,399
bright light no sound

823
00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:59,279
mimicked our movement

824
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:01,919
and that was about it um

825
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:03,440
so yeah i'll

826
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:05,840
i'll never forget it i know it happened

827
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:12,149
and that's it

828
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:13,909
thank you

829
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:16,399
so let's talk about your involvement

830
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,879
with the community now as far as uap

831
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:20,639
experiences which is your online

832
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:23,200
platform through social media channels

833
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:25,760
just give us a little breakdown of like

834
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:27,440
where that came from what made you take

835
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:29,919
that step to put yourself out there now

836
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:31,040
you know

837
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:33,760
if you don't mind sure i mean absolutely

838
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,359
i would love to share that and we would

839
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:37,520
like more people to come forth and as we

840
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:38,720
do this

841
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:41,919
that's just exactly what's occurring so

842
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:44,639
back in 2021 about the same time that i

843
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:48,320
had discovered your platform i decided

844
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:51,200
that because my family and i had such a

845
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:54,320
very close experience with the uap

846
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:56,800
well why don't i begin a platform that

847
00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,680
would actually serve this community

848
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,839
um you know and i feel like there just

849
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:04,320
can't be enough of that somebody and the

850
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:06,880
right person will find your platform

851
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:08,960
there's so many different avenues to go

852
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:11,599
with this so you know mine might speak

853
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,000
to somebody out that doesn't speak to a

854
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:16,079
different platform so that's where uap

855
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:20,320
experiencers was born and it's been

856
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:22,800
so fulfilling because

857
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:26,240
i feel that people are actually getting

858
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:27,119
some

859
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:30,079
sort of this like therapeutic type

860
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:31,280
feeling

861
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:32,160
from

862
00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:36,000
getting to talk about it being heard

863
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:39,520
just going through the motions of what

864
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:41,839
happened to you

865
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:44,880
it was an incident it is some an event

866
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:46,240
that occurred

867
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:47,280
that is

868
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,079
not typical so to have that information

869
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:54,320
kept inside of you

870
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:58,320
it's not healthy and that's where this

871
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:01,760
uap experiencers was born and um

872
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:04,320
gosh it's been awesome i i mean the

873
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,160
people that i've been meeting

874
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:07,920
through the community

875
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:09,760
we're all in this

876
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,880
same

877
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,440
you know topic together everybody has a

878
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:15,200
piece to the puzzle

879
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:16,560
somebody might

880
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:19,200
bring one little iota of information

881
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:22,000
forth that could

882
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:24,880
bring more insight to what is occurring

883
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:28,160
in our skies so yeah i'm super excited

884
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:30,079
we're going to continue this journey

885
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:33,599
before i let you go please tell everyone

886
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:35,200
where they can find you

887
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:38,480
all right everybody uap experiencers all

888
00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:40,480
across the board with the exception of

889
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:43,599
instagram there's an underscore uap

890
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,079
underscore experiencers

891
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:48,240
and yes i would be honored and pleased

892
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:49,440
to share

893
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,920
any form of you know event that had

894
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:54,000
occurred in your life it could have been

895
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:56,880
even a submergible object you know

896
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:58,960
that's coming forth more and to the

897
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:01,040
forefront as well which is extremely

898
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:04,480
exciting so do not be afraid we are here

899
00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:06,560
to listen and that's the most important

900
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:07,839
thing

901
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,000
absolutely i will put all of your links

902
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,720
in the description below as well so

903
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:14,160
listen steph thank you so much for

904
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,640
joining me i i do really feel honored to

905
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,320
have heard that story and i i really

906
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:20,720
felt it as well like hearing from three

907
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:22,480
members of one family about the same

908
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:23,599
experience

909
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:26,240
it's quite rare so that was really a

910
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:28,800
really standout thing for me so again

911
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:30,880
thank you so much

912
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:33,040
so for now everyone we will see you soon